Leaving Neverland

DinnerSocks

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
Holy fucking shit dude you are fucked up! Gay/straight doesn't come into play with molestation victims. They were prepubescent boys that did not yet have a sexuality. They were manipulated into a relationship with an adult. They lied to their parents to keep hanging out with a guy they thought loved them. They are victims in this, and they are conditioned to lie.

Abuse affects people differently. If you watched the doc, you could see these men were severely affected. They know as adults what happened was wrong.

So you would’ve done the same thing at that age?
 

DinnerSocks

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
All adults were dumb children at some point. If you think you couldn't have been manipulated, you're mistaken. And this is leading back to victim blaming. How you or I would react is irrelevant.
I can see certain kids being vulnerable to that but not kids with good, vigilant parents. Didn’t your parents ever tell you as a kid that’s its always wrong for adults to touch children’s privates and vice versa?
 

KingofallMessicans

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I can see certain kids being vulnerable to that but not kids with good, vigilant parents. Didn’t your parents ever tell you as a kid that’s its always wrong for adults to touch children’s privates and vice versa?
Predators seek out children with shitty parents. We all agree the parents in this were fucking stupid and should probably feel a guilt deep enough to consider suicide daily. Some kids only have one parent, and sometimes that parent is overwhelmed. Some kids have parents willing to whore out their children because they have black souls that need to be purged. But the molesters are worse than all of them.
 

DinnerSocks

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
Predators seek out children with shitty parents. We all agree the parents in this were fucking stupid and should probably feel a guilt deep enough to consider suicide daily. Some kids only have one parent, and sometimes that parent is overwhelmed. Some kids have parents willing to whore out their children because they have black souls that need to be purged. But the molesters are worse than all of them.

That’s why I’m not completely discounting their accusations. Their parents were complete shit, especially Robson’s mother. She basically tore her family apart so Wade could leech off of Michael Jackson.

Robson testifying for the defense at the 2005 trial is really hard to overlook for me. He wasn’t a kid then and if he was really abused, it was his duty to testify against Jackson.
 

Shiny Wig

GOLD Wiggy
That’s why I’m not completely discounting their accusations. Their parents were complete shit, especially Robson’s mother. She basically tore her family apart so Wade could leech off of Michael Jackson.

Robson testifying for the defense at the 2005 trial is really hard to overlook for me. He wasn’t a kid then and if he was really abused, it was his duty to testify against Jackson.
Watch part 2.
 

GatGirl69

Disruptive Lesbian
That’s why I’m not completely discounting their accusations. Their parents were complete shit, especially Robson’s mother. She basically tore her family apart so Wade could leech off of Michael Jackson.

Robson testifying for the defense at the 2005 trial is really hard to overlook for me. He wasn’t a kid then and if he was really abused, it was his duty to testify against Jackson.
I think there is a lot of deep rooted shit that goes on with molestation victims. Wade was 7 years old when Michael Jackson began performing analingus on him while jacking off.
Jackson told him from the age of 7 on that what they had was special...and it was about love and how they communicate it to one another.
That shit was drilled into his head from the time he was 7 years old. It's takes root.
I found him credible.
 

DinnerSocks

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
I think there is a lot of deep rooted shit that goes on with molestation victims. Wade was 7 years old when Michael Jackson began performing analingus on him while jacking off.
Jackson told him from the age of 7 on that what they had was special...and it was about love and how they communicate it to one another.
That shit was drilled into his head from the time he was 7 years old. It's takes root.
I found him credible.

Robson’s brother seemed to be the most “on the ball” out of all of them. He put 2 and 2 together the moment that he found out Jackson was being investigated in 1993. He was thinking Wade must’ve been abused because of all the time he’d spent alone with Jackson.
 
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A really good friend of mine who grew up in Orange County CA and later moved here as an adult to work for a CART (indy car) team had a Michael Jackson experience and he said Michael does NOT molest children. This guy was never a liar, so I believe his story.
What was his experience? How old was your friend at the time? Was it just a meet and greet?
It seemed that Michael Jackson had a specific type. Little boys who were natural performers and liked being onstage. Pretty much like he was as a little boy.
 

Comet01

GOLD Wiggy
I can’t talk about that here. Look up Wolfgang Halbig.
Isaac Asimov:
“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
 

DinnerSocks

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
Isaac Asimov:
“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

Do you trust the media? Have you ever done any of your own research or would that be “anti-intellectualism”?
 

TIgerLily

Meh, Whatever
I can see certain kids being vulnerable to that but not kids with good, vigilant parents.

Well, duh.
You’re making the point FOR the two men in this documentary.

They had shitty parents who weren’t just not viligant, they were enablers.
One factor that went into the PERMANENT brain development of these guys was that staying with Michael (no matter what was happening) made their parents happy and their families’ lives better.

All of this is why they are credible.

Idk why proving child molestation victims are lying is the hill you choose to die on again and again.
Seriously, it’s something you should ask yourself.
 

monique

If I were kind and adoring How would that be?
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Most Benevolent Dictator
Well, duh.
You’re making the point FOR the two men in this documentary.

They had shitty parents who weren’t just not viligant, they were enablers.
One factor that went into the PERMANENT brain development of these guys was that staying with Michael (no matter what was happening) made their parents happy and their families’ lives better.

All of this is why they are credible.

Idk why proving child molestation victims are lying is the hill you choose to die on again and again.
Seriously, it’s something you should ask yourself.
"swipe up"
 

DinnerSocks

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
Well, duh.
You’re making the point FOR the two men in this documentary.

They had shitty parents who weren’t just not viligant, they were enablers.
One factor that went into the PERMANENT brain development of these guys was that staying with Michael (no matter what was happening) made their parents happy and their families’ lives better.

All of this is why they are credible.

Idk why proving child molestation victims are lying is the hill you choose to die on again and again.
Seriously, it’s something you should ask yourself.

Both men testified, under oath, that they were never abused. Neither man made any allegations while Michael Jackson was alive. Both men have tried to get money from the Jackson estate, hiring the same lawyer in a 2014 lawsuit. Robson was shopping a book around where he was going to detail his abuse to the highest bidder. Both of their stories have changed numerous times leading to many incinsistencies and contradictions.

Michael Jackson was investigated by the FBI for 10 years, his house was raided, and he was put on trial where he was acquitted. I know juries are goofy in these trials, but still.

You people will blindly believe anyone with a sob story. That’s the problem with our society. No one used to believe accusers 30-40 years ago. Now everyone believes anyone that makes an accusation. Can’t we be somewhere in the middle where we look at both sides of the story and use some critical thought?
 
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Shiny Wig

GOLD Wiggy
Both men testified, under oath, that they were never abused. Neither man made any allegations while Michael Jackson was alive. Both men have tried to get money from the Jackson estate, hiring the same lawyer in a 2014 lawsuit. Robson was shopping a book around where he was going to detail his abuse to the highest bidder. Both of their stories have changed numerous times leading to many incinsistencies and contradictions.

Michael Jackson was investigated by the FBI for 10 years, his house was raided, and he was put on trial where he was acquitted. I know juries are goofy in these trials, but still.

You people will blindly believe anyone with a sob story. That’s the problem with our society. No one used to believe accusers 30-40 years ago. Now everyone believes anyone that makes an accusation. Can’t we be somewhere in the middle where we look at both sides of the story and use some critical thought?
Watch part 2.
 

DinnerSocks

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
Watch part 2.

The big one for me is they both used the same attorney. I have no doubt that’s why their stories of abuse are almost identical. I’d be far more willing to buy their stories if Safechuck and Robson had never met as kids and had no contact as adults.
 
I am sure I will get flamed for this, but am I the only one that thinks whatever trauma broke his brain for him to blame Creeper abuse victims... *might* also be related to him liking men with cocks who dress up as ladies...but claim he's not gay?

Am I the crazy one?
 
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