Leaving Neverland

killallposers

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
dude, watch themovie and then comment. Your perception is that kids are little adults and should be allowed to make adult decisions. You need to have your head examined

It's all about Sandusky with him. "That's not how CSA victims act" is his usual line. Now here's another high profile case where they act like that, so he has to discredit them with his nonsense about how they should act.
 

YodaQuiversStern

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"Totally Worth It!"
A really good friend of mine who grew up in Orange County CA and later moved here as an adult to work for a CART (indy car) team had a Michael Jackson experience and he said Michael does NOT molest children. This guy was never a liar, so I believe his story.
 

JuliotheGreasiest

An empty glass of himself shattered
It's all about Sandusky with him. "That's not how CSA victims act" is his usual line. Now here's another high profile case where they act like that, so he has to discredit them with his nonsense about how they should act.
It’s actually about Joe Pa and how he can’t let go of the fact that his idol was complicit with a serial paedophile. This “kids should know that they are being molested” narrative feeds into this same horseshit.

Dude. wake the fuck up!!!! Kids don’t have the situational awareness to know when they are being manipulated and yes, the parents are equal partners in this, but do not hold kids accountable for wanting to play video games and play with monkeys with no “adult” telling them what to do. There was a systematic brainwashing going on by MJ and it was a recurring theme with both stories being related. It’s called grooming and Sandusky did the same shit.
 

DinnerSocks

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It’s actually about Joe Pa and how he can’t let go of the fact that his idol was complicit with a serial paedophile. This “kids should know that they are being molested” narrative feeds into this same horseshit.

Dude. wake the fuck up!!!! Kids don’t have the situational awareness to know when they are being manipulated and yes, the parents are equal partners in this, but do not hold kids accountable for wanting to play video games and play with monkeys with no “adult” telling them what to do. There was a systematic brainwashing going on by MJ and it was a recurring theme with both stories being related. It’s called grooming and Sandusky did the same shit.

I’m not saying Michael Jackson was innocent. He very likely could’ve been a child molester. He had all the ear marks. But there’s no evidence. There’s usually mountains of evidence in Creeper cases. It’s their word against his and he can’t defend himself. Their stories have changed multiple times. Robson testified under oath that he was never abused by Jackson. That stuff is hard to overlook. It goes against their credibility.
 

DinnerSocks

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
It's all about Sandusky with him. "That's not how CSA victims act" is his usual line. Now here's another high profile case where they act like that, so he has to discredit them with his nonsense about how they should act.

Why didn’t ANY of the 36 Sandusky accusers ask to see his STD medical records?
 

JuliotheGreasiest

An empty glass of himself shattered
I’m not saying Michael Jackson was innocent. He very likely could’ve been a child molester. He had all the ear marks. But there’s no evidence. There’s usually mountains of evidence in Creeper cases. It’s their word against his and he can’t defend himself. Their stories have changed multiple times. Robson testified under oath that he was never abused by Jackson. That stuff is hard to overlook. It goes against their credibility.
so you’ve never lied to protect someone you “cared” about
 

killallposers

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
It’s actually about Joe Pa and how he can’t let go of the fact that his idol was complicit with a serial paedophile. This “kids should know that they are being molested” narrative feeds into this same horseshit.

Dude. wake the fuck up!!!! Kids don’t have the situational awareness to know when they are being manipulated and yes, the parents are equal partners in this, but do not hold kids accountable for wanting to play video games and play with monkeys with no “adult” telling them what to do. There was a systematic brainwashing going on by MJ and it was a recurring theme with both stories being related. It’s called grooming and Sandusky did the same shit.

I think it's about PSU in general at the time. He must've had some connection. Employment or attended. Or maybe he really was just one of their nutso obsessed fans who worshipped Joe Pa. He's said he believed Sandusky was guilty at first but then over time realized he wasn't. I think that does go back to Joe Pa. At first, they could try to separate Joe Pa from Sandusky. So they could say Sandusky did the dirty but Joe Pa did nothing wrong. Then as more and more comes out and the controversy blows up and Joe Pa is fired and dies... it becomes one big scandal that can't really be separated. So the only thing left is to say none of it ever happened.

That's the funny part. He describes common grooming and victim behavior while claiming that's not how any of them should act.
 

TIgerLily

Meh, Whatever
A really good friend of mine who grew up in Orange County CA and later moved here as an adult to work for a CART (indy car) team had a Michael Jackson experience and he said Michael does NOT molest children. This guy was never a liar, so I believe his story.

YQS, are you kidding ? That’s one guy’s experience.
Molesters don’t abuse every child.
(Rapists don’t rape every woman they see either and even have wives)
They are skilled at picking and choosing the vulnerable ones that fit a profile.
 

killallposers

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
Why didn’t ANY of the 36 Sandusky accusers ask to see his STD medical records?

Joe-Paterno.jpg
 

DinnerSocks

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so you’ve never lied to protect someone you “cared” about

Robson could’ve been the nail in Jackson’s coffin in 2005. He had the opportunity to send him to prison but he didn’t. Robson was 23 years old at the time, WAY old enough to know better. He’s either lying or he perjured himself to protect a serial Creeper.
 

killallposers

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KingofallMessicans

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I watched Part One. Kids with decent parents should never be able to be “groomed” no matter what. They should’ve been taught by their parents that if anyone ever touches them that they should immediately tell mom and dad. Judging from these parents(the mother’s especially) perhaps they never talked about that stuff with the kids?

There’s noticeable behavior changes in kids that are really being abused. You’re telling me no one in these kids lives picked up on that? These kids all kept begging to go back to Michael Jackson only to be abused? It doesn’t add up. Maybe the abuse was worth all the cool stuff they got to do?

Holy fucking shit dude. You're fucked in the head.
 

DinnerSocks

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Are those two links to the same nutty blog dedicated to defending PSU? Great, now I'm on some list with you.

It’s a Federal Agent that investigated PSU and Graham Spanier for 6 months and a Philly Inquirer reporter that investigated the Philly diocese sex abuse scandal where a kid lied about being abused and sent 4 innocent men to prison.
 

killallposers

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It’s a Federal Agent that investigated PSU and Graham Spanier for 6 months and a Philly Inquirer reporter that investigated the Philly diocese sex abuse scandal where a kid lied about being abused and sent 4 innocent men to prison.

The blog is run by them?
 

DinnerSocks

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The piece you kept posting the link and said it was going to prove Sandusky innocent?

The piece lays out everything we know about each accuser, their back story, and their accusations. It’s not a 100% smoking gun but there’s mountains of reasonable doubt of Sandusky’s guilt.
 

DinnerSocks

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Yes I do. Sexual abuse is pervasive, and the victims often enjoy the activities in the moment. It doesn't make them okay. You sound like you belong in NAMBLA dude, children can't make those kind of decisions.

That was the case with many of the Catholic Church victims. They were gay. These guys are both straight from what I’ve heard. Maybe their parents were completely shitty and never told them about sex abuse? I just don’t get how the abuse didn’t totally affect them to the point where they would show signs of stress and depression because they both knew it was wrong.
 

Shiny Wig

GOLD Wiggy
That was the case with many of the Catholic Church victims. They were gay. These guys are both straight from what I’ve heard. Maybe their parents were completely shitty and never told them about sex abuse? I just don’t get how the abuse didn’t totally affect them to the point where they would show signs of stress and depression because they both knew it was wrong.
Serious question:
Were you the victim of sexual abuse as a child?
 

monique

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A really good friend of mine who grew up in Orange County CA and later moved here as an adult to work for a CART (indy car) team had a Michael Jackson experience and he said Michael did NOT molest him. This guy was never a liar, so I believe his story.
fixed for you, that's all you can trust about what he said.
 

KingofallMessicans

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That was the case with many of the Catholic Church victims. They were gay. These guys are both straight from what I’ve heard. Maybe their parents were completely shitty and never told them about sex abuse? I just don’t get how the abuse didn’t totally affect them to the point where they would show signs of stress and depression because they both knew it was wrong.
Holy fucking shit dude you are fucked up! Gay/straight doesn't come into play with molestation victims. They were prepubescent boys that did not yet have a sexuality. They were manipulated into a relationship with an adult. They lied to their parents to keep hanging out with a guy they thought loved them. They are victims in this, and they are conditioned to lie.

Abuse affects people differently. If you watched the doc, you could see these men were severely affected. They know as adults what happened was wrong.
 

TracyLynn

No thank you, please.
A really good friend of mine who grew up in Orange County CA and later moved here as an adult to work for a CART (indy car) team had a Michael Jackson experience and he said Michael does NOT molest children. This guy was never a liar, so I believe his story.
Did you watch the documentary?
Your friend may not be a liar. but he may also not know everything that goes on in MJ’s private life.
 
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