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Leaving Neverland

KingofallMessicans

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I am sure I will get flamed for this, but am I the only one that thinks whatever trauma broke his brain for him to blame Creeper abuse victims... *might* also be related to him liking men with cocks who dress up as ladies...but claim he's not gay?

Am I the crazy one?
Wait, are you talking about MJ? If MJ was into dudes with cocks that dressed like ladies, who cares?

Or does the dinnersocks dude have a history of being into "traps"?
 

Craven Moorehead

Friend of the Court
I think people are very gullible when it comes to child molestation accusations. There are two sides to every story. Both Safechuck and Robson had plenty of chances to make these accusations against Michael Jackson when they could’ve actually done something but they didn’t. Robson actually testified he was never abused. Their stories have changed and evolved over time which isn’t usually what happens when you’re telling the truth. Both Robson and Safechuck have tried, multiple times, to get money from the Jackson estate prior to appearing in this documentary. It seemed like Jackson dumped these boys not the other way around which is weird for boys that had been repeatedly sexually violated.

I don’t know what to believe here. Jackson certainly displayed all the signs of a Creeper. What 30 year old spends hours on the phone talking to a 9 year old? Even if no sexual abuse occurred, Jackson’s relationship with these kids was certainly very inappropriate. Their parents should’ve noticed that, no matter who it is, no adult male should be spending that much unsupervised time alone with children. Ultimately the parents failed these men. They were all seduced by fame, money, and power. I don’t think anyone can claim they were naive or “it was a different time back then...” because I’m positive that NONE of this behavior would’ve been tolerated if it was the creepy guy down the block asking to spend hours and hours alone with their kids instead of Michael Jackson.

What makes me wonder if these two are being truthful is that they BOTH tried to sue MJ's estate and lost. So now, they are willing to settle for the money HBO was willing to give them. What is more damning to MJ in my opinion was the fact that he "settled" the 1st case and didn't let it play out. His excuse was that it would have cost him more money to fight it. This, coming from a man who at the time had more money than God. If he was truly not guilty, then why would he let money tarnish his reputation?
 

DinnerSocks

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
I am sure I will get flamed for this, but am I the only one that thinks whatever trauma broke his brain for him to blame Creeper abuse victims... *might* also be related to him liking men with cocks who dress up as ladies...but claim he's not gay?

Am I the crazy one?

It’s not “victim blaming” dummy. I require some facts and evidence and a credible story to believe someone claiming to have been raped/sexually abused.

And please...they’re trans women.

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Shane

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
I'm not sure how so many of you guys watched this? I got grossed out after a few minutes and turned it off.
 

GatGirl69

Disruptive Lesbian
What makes me wonder if these two are being truthful is that they BOTH tried to sue MJ's estate and lost. So now, they are willing to settle for the money HBO was willing to give them. What is more damning to MJ in my opinion was the fact that he "settled" the 1st case and didn't let it play out. His excuse was that it would have cost him more money to fight it. This, coming from a man who at the time had more money than God. If he was truly not guilty, then why would he let money tarnish his reputation?
Hi.
HBO purchased the rights to show the documentary long after the victim's had filmed their parts so they didn't get any cash from HBO as far as I know.
I think they're credible.
 

CCMaguire

Marble Hoarder
I watched both parts plus the Oprah interview. At first, I thought they were lying. They were thinking back and reminiscing about good times with Michael with smiles on their faces. The moms were practically gushing at the memory of hanging out with Micheal Jackson. But as it went on, it all began to make sense. Jackson didn't just snatch them up and fondle them in his dressing room. He built up to it. He seduced them. He made them think that he loved them and they were special. He did the same with the moms by allowing them to stay in "paradise", paying their bills, buying them houses and promising career guidance. He selected his targets very carefully. It doesn't work for him unless the family is onboard. I believe them and I wish that I didn't. I wanted to continue to admire Jackson's immense talent, but I don't think I can do that anymore. :(
 

lucy van pelt

Repeat the sounding joy
I watched both parts plus the Oprah interview. At first, I thought they were lying. They were thinking back and reminiscing about good times with Michael with smiles on their faces. The moms were practically gushing at the memory of hanging out with Micheal Jackson. But as it went on, it all began to make sense. Jackson didn't just snatch them up and fondle them in his dressing room. He built up to it. He seduced them. He made them think that he loved them and they were special. He did the same with the moms by allowing them to stay in "paradise", paying their bills, buying them houses and promising career guidance. He selected his targets very carefully. It doesn't work for him unless the family is onboard. I believe them and I wish that I didn't. I wanted to continue to admire Jackson's immense talent, but I don't think I can do that anymore. :(
I heard a song of his on the radio today and my reaction was literally ‘ewwwwww’
I don’t want to hear his music anymore........
 

monique

If I were kind and adoring How would that be?
The Management
Most Benevolent Dictator
I was going to comment in this thread about this documentary, as I just got done watching both parts, but I am afraid I will get myself banned because I will use any and all manner of options to destroy a certain poster in this thread. Holy shit.
keep it to MJ and we will all be fine....
interested in your thoughts, so speak up!
 

PicoDeGato

Who is your daddy and what does he do?
I just finished watching the Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO and all I can say is WOW! Michael Jackson was a fucking monster. He's probably the biggest Creeper of all time. The other issue is the parents of the victims. How on earth do you leave your 7 year old child with this man? It's mind blowing. One of the victims that is featured in the documentary (James Safechuck) is completely fucked up mentally by what happened to him. It's so fucked up. And to think that there are still millions of MJ fans that will defend him to the bitter end. Again, my mind is blown by this. I recommend you guys watch this ASAP.
 
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