Leaving Neverland

TracyLynn

No thank you, please.
Watching part 1, about halfway through. Can’t stop saying, “this fucking weirdo”. Dude courted these boys like the hottest of chicks. The kid is describing masturbation, asshole spreading, French kissing, blow jobs - don’t think I can watch all of this. I know someone who will love it though.

:ooga:
He talked about it today.
He actually uttered the words, “I like that,” when they played the clip of the kid talking about spreading his ass cheeks.
 

DinnerSocks

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
How were these kids never taught about “stranger danger”? When I was a kid, I knew that grown ups should never touch my privates(and vice versa) from as long as I can remember. That Jimmy Safechuck was way old enough to know what Jackson was supposedly doing was very wrong.

I guess when the guy doing the molesting is the most famous person in the world, all that just goes right out the window...
 

killallposers

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
How were these kids never taught about “stranger danger”? When I was a kid, I knew that grown ups should never touch my privates(and vice versa) from as long as I can remember. That Jimmy Safechuck was way old enough to know what Jackson was supposedly doing was very wrong.

I guess when the guy doing the molesting is the most famous person in the world, all that just goes right out the window...

sandusky-defense-dimond_k4vxsu
 

DinnerSocks

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
No to mention he’s low-key blaming the kids in his post as well, but won’t see it.

I’ll give the kids the first time, that’s on Michael. But they kept going back for more. Then a few years later, in 1993, when the cops interviewed them, they both said Jackson never molested them, allowing other kids to be abused. Wade Robson was a defense witness at Jackson’s trial in 2005 FFS!

You’re really going to tell me that these guys have zero culpability?
 

TIgerLily

Meh, Whatever
How were these kids never taught about “stranger danger”? When I was a kid, I knew that grown ups should never touch my privates(and vice versa) from as long as I can remember. That Jimmy Safechuck was way old enough to know what Jackson was supposedly doing was very wrong.

I guess when the guy doing the molesting is the most famous person in the world, all that just goes right out the window...

You seem to have the most f*cked up conclusions when it comes to child molestations.
Idk if it’s shtick or something that you should self reflect on.
 
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Honkey Donkey

AKA Hoakey Dokey - Half Man / Half Jackelope
The RG OG's
I am....I was going to resurrect my thread but was too lazy.....
I guess I believe it now, can totally see how it happened.
Damn, that boy was SEVEN....sucking MJ’s cock......disturbing
I heard the clips on Jim and Sam and it is just sick and sad . It’s probably one of the most disturbing things I have ever heard . I believe these kids all the way . Kind of makes me want to not listen to anything by him after Off The Wall .
 

JuliotheGreasiest

An empty glass of himself shattered
How were these kids never taught about “stranger danger”? When I was a kid, I knew that grown ups should never touch my privates(and vice versa) from as long as I can remember. That Jimmy Safechuck was way old enough to know what Jackson was supposedly doing was very wrong.

I guess when the guy doing the molesting is the most famous person in the world, all that just goes right out the window...
Between this and the Sandusky shit, obviously you have no idea about kids. He groomed these kids to get them to this point!!!!!’. Kids are not known for making adult decisions, that is why they can’t drive or vote. This video was a nightmare and classic creeper stuff. I 100% believe them and their parents should be punished as well.
 

GatGirl69

Disruptive Lesbian
He was an unchecked Creeper with unlimited income.
His entire life was built around fucking little boys both physically and mentally.
I have no idea how his fans can continue to support him.
I don't think I'll ever watch this again, but I will never forget it, that's for sure.
 

Stew Nod

DaveInDiego’sSister
Around
I blame the mothers. They both were in unhappy marriages and were looking for an "escape" and saw this as a way for the glamorous, fantasy life they desired at the expense of their sons.
One even left her husband as his mental health was disintegrating to go to the US.

Those mothers didn't know because they didn't want to know. And they are still telling themselves that lie.

The whole thing is just revolting. I feel so bad for those men who are so damaged by what MJ did to them as little boys. Little boys.
Those little boys were so confused and isolated by what was happening. Horrible what was MJ did to them. It was very graphic and nauseating.
Yup, yup

I stopped watching early on, the part where they went to never
And and the kids came and asked if they could spend the night with MJ

:facepalm: Ray Charles could see where this was leading, but the mothers couldn’t

Even the part where they kids jumped in his limo and the parents had to follow would have fucked with my head
 

DinnerSocks

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
You seem to have the most f*cked up conclusions when it comes to child molestations.
Idk if it’s shtick or something that you should really self reflect on.
Between this and the Sandusky shit, obviously you have no idea about kids. He groomed these kids to get them to this point!!!!!’. Kids are not known for making adult decisions, that is why they can’t drive or vote. This video was a nightmare and classic creeper stuff. I 100% believe them and their parents should be punished as well.

I think people are very gullible when it comes to child molestation accusations. There are two sides to every story. Both Safechuck and Robson had plenty of chances to make these accusations against Michael Jackson when they could’ve actually done something but they didn’t. Robson actually testified he was never abused. Their stories have changed and evolved over time which isn’t usually what happens when you’re telling the truth. Both Robson and Safechuck have tried, multiple times, to get money from the Jackson estate prior to appearing in this documentary. It seemed like Jackson dumped these boys not the other way around which is weird for boys that had been repeatedly sexually violated.

I don’t know what to believe here. Jackson certainly displayed all the signs of a Creeper. What 30 year old spends hours on the phone talking to a 9 year old? Even if no sexual abuse occurred, Jackson’s relationship with these kids was certainly very inappropriate. Their parents should’ve noticed that, no matter who it is, no adult male should be spending that much unsupervised time alone with children. Ultimately the parents failed these men. They were all seduced by fame, money, and power. I don’t think anyone can claim they were naive or “it was a different time back then...” because I’m positive that NONE of this behavior would’ve been tolerated if it was the creepy guy down the block asking to spend hours and hours alone with their kids instead of Michael Jackson.
 
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TIgerLily

Meh, Whatever
I think people are very gullible when it comes to child molestation accusations. There are two sides to every story. Both Safechuck and Robson had plenty of chances to make these accusations against Michael Jackson when they could’ve actually done something but they didn’t. Their stories have changed and evolved over time which isn’t usually what happens when you’re telling the truth. Both Robson and Safechuck have tried, multiple times, to get money from the Jackson estate prior to appearing in this documentary. It seemed like Jackson dumped these boys not the other way around which is weird for boys that had been repeatedly sexually violated.

I don’t know what to believe here. Jackson certainly displayed all the signs of a Creeper. What 30 year old spends hours on the phone talking to a 9 year old? Even if no sexual abuse occurred, Jackson’s relationship with these kids was certainly very inappropriate. Their parents should’ve noticed that, no matter who it is, no adult male should be spending that much unsupervised time alone with children. Ultimately the parents failed these men. They were all seduced by fame, money, and power. I don’t think anyone can claim they were naive or “it was a different time back then...” because I’m positive that NONE of this behavior would’ve been tolerated if it was the creepy guy down the block asking to spend hours and hours alone with their kids instead of Michael Jackson.

All of these points are gone over clearly and explained in the documentary.
Have you watched it ?
 

DinnerSocks

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
All of these points are gone over clearly and explained in the documentary.
Have you watched it ?

Did they talk about Robson asking for a job in the Michael Jackson Las Vegas Tribute Show, how he tried to sell a book about his alleged molestation in 2012, or that he attended a Jackson memorial show after Michael died?
 

TIgerLily

Meh, Whatever
Did they talk about Robson asking for a job in the Michael Jackson Las Vegas Tribute Show, how he tried to sell a book about his alleged molestation in 2012, or that he attended a Jackson memorial show after Michael died?

It would seem to be logical to watch the documentary before you comment, no ?
 

DinnerSocks

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
there is something wrong with you bro.

I’m skeptical of everything I hear from the media. I’ve already seen this with the Sandusky case. Did you know that not one of the 36 Sandusky accusers ever asked to see Jerry’s health records to see if he had HIV or any other STD?
 

JuliotheGreasiest

An empty glass of himself shattered
I’m skeptical of everything I hear from the media. I’ve already seen this with the Sandusky case. Did you know that not one of the 36 Sandusky accusers ever asked to see Jerry’s health records to see if he had HIV or any other STD?
dude, watch themovie and then comment. Your perception is that kids are little adults and should be allowed to make adult decisions. You need to have your head examined
 

DinnerSocks

Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
dude, watch themovie and then comment. Your perception is that kids are little adults and should be allowed to make adult decisions. You need to have your head examined

I watched Part One. Kids with decent parents should never be able to be “groomed” no matter what. They should’ve been taught by their parents that if anyone ever touches them that they should immediately tell mom and dad. Judging from these parents(the mother’s especially) perhaps they never talked about that stuff with the kids?

There’s noticeable behavior changes in kids that are really being abused. You’re telling me no one in these kids lives picked up on that? These kids all kept begging to go back to Michael Jackson only to be abused? It doesn’t add up. Maybe the abuse was worth all the cool stuff they got to do?
 
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