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Sirius XM Holdings, Inc.: This Could Be Big Problem for SIRI Stock
By Tony Termini, BS, MIM Published : October 13, 2016

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SIRIUS Satellite Radio, Inc. merged with XM Satellite Radio Holdings, Inc. in July 2008 to form what is today Sirius XM Holdings, Inc.(NASDAQ:SIRI). Since then, the company’s revenues have grown at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 9.17% after posting huge losses in both 2008 and 2009.

From 2010 through the end of 2015, Sirius XM stock has grown earnings per share (EPS) at a dramatic CAGR of better than 44.2%. SIRI stock has advanced at a spectacular 37.21% CAGR.

But why has Sirius stock flat-lined for the last nearly three years?

It could be that that Sirius stock has be suffering from the same illness that plagues satellite and cable television providers. The issue facing Pay-TV providers is that high-speed, streaming, and on-demand services can get entertainment to consumers with as much—or more—variety, at faster speeds, and cheaper prices. And this may be what SIRI stock is about to face.

Sirius XM Stock: Subscriber Challenges
When Sirius XM reported its 2015 full-year earnings, the company noted that three out of every four new cars sold in America included factory-equipped satellite radio. Given that more than 17 million new cars were sold in the U.S. last year, that would put the total number of potential new subscribers at about 12.8 million. (Source: “Form 10-K,” U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, February 2, 2016.)

Unfortunately, Sirius XM stock attracted just 2.3 million new subscribers in all of 2015, an increase of some eight percent over the year before. That means fewer than 18% of Americans who bought new cars activated the satellite radio that came with it. (Source: Ibid.
)

Now, let’s compare this to the customer acquisition of a company like Netflix, Inc. (NASDAQ:NFLX). When Netflix reported earnings for the second quarter of 2016, the company told shareholders that new members (subscribers) increased by 1.7 million in just that quarter. Netflix currently has more than 83 million members and a viable audience pool of about a billion. (Source: “Q216 Letter to Shareholders,” Netflix, Inc., July 18, 2016.)

But the two companies are different, you might suggest. I disagree.

Only their products and delivery mechanisms are different. Fundamentally, I believe that they are very similar; they both deliver entertainment in non-traditional ways. These days, consumers are increasingly choosing Netflix over cable or satellite providers. And more television viewers are watching programming on something other than a TV. This is why Pay-TV providers still have audience penetration rates in U.S. homes similar to what they had back in 2005. (Source: “82% of Households Subscribe to A Pay-TV Service,” Leichtman Research Group, Inc., September 23, 2016.)

Netflix has benefited as more people go cord-cutting in search for more interactive, on-demand, and less expensive entertainment options. In my opinion, Sirius XM is at risk from the same consumer sentiment that has benefited Netflix.

Not only is commercial radio currently free, but it now appears thatAmazon.com, Inc. (NASDAQ:AMZN) and Pandora Media Inc. (NYSE:p) are set to deliver a Netflix-like service that could stream music and other entertainment live to your car’s audio system from your smartphone. And the service would be available for a fraction of the cost of a Sirius XM subscription. (Source: “Amazon and Pandora to Gauge Music’s Value in the Internet Age,” The New York Times, September 11, 2016.)


SIRI Stock’s Serious Competition
Pioneer Electronics, a manufacturer of car audio systems, makes this problem for Sirius XM even more tenable as they recently introduced an updated version of an in-dash satellite receiver that can detect Pandora Internet radio settings from smartphones.

This could present meaningful competition for Sirius XM as Pandora’s 78 million active subscriber base is more than twice the number of subscribers that Sirius XM has. (Source: “Pandora Reports Q2 2016 Financial Results,” Pandora Media, Inc., July 21, 2016.)

So, the market may be signaling that changes are on the way that could present serious problems for Sirius XM stock.
 

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Sirius XM Holdings, Inc.: This Could Be Big Problem for SIRI Stock
By Tony Termini, BS, MIM Published : October 13, 2016

SIRI-Stock-300x225.jpg
SIRIUS Satellite Radio, Inc. merged with XM Satellite Radio Holdings, Inc. in July 2008 to form what is today Sirius XM Holdings, Inc.(NASDAQ:SIRI). Since then, the company’s revenues have grown at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 9.17% after posting huge losses in both 2008 and 2009.

From 2010 through the end of 2015, Sirius XM stock has grown earnings per share (EPS) at a dramatic CAGR of better than 44.2%. SIRI stock has advanced at a spectacular 37.21% CAGR.

But why has Sirius stock flat-lined for the last nearly three years?

It could be that that Sirius stock has be suffering from the same illness that plagues satellite and cable television providers. The issue facing Pay-TV providers is that high-speed, streaming, and on-demand services can get entertainment to consumers with as much—or more—variety, at faster speeds, and cheaper prices. And this may be what SIRI stock is about to face.

Sirius XM Stock: Subscriber Challenges
When Sirius XM reported its 2015 full-year earnings, the company noted that three out of every four new cars sold in America included factory-equipped satellite radio. Given that more than 17 million new cars were sold in the U.S. last year, that would put the total number of potential new subscribers at about 12.8 million. (Source: “Form 10-K,” U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, February 2, 2016.)

Unfortunately, Sirius XM stock attracted just 2.3 million new subscribers in all of 2015, an increase of some eight percent over the year before. That means fewer than 18% of Americans who bought new cars activated the satellite radio that came with it. (Source: Ibid.
)

Now, let’s compare this to the customer acquisition of a company like Netflix, Inc. (NASDAQ:NFLX). When Netflix reported earnings for the second quarter of 2016, the company told shareholders that new members (subscribers) increased by 1.7 million in just that quarter. Netflix currently has more than 83 million members and a viable audience pool of about a billion. (Source: “Q216 Letter to Shareholders,” Netflix, Inc., July 18, 2016.)

But the two companies are different, you might suggest. I disagree.

Only their products and delivery mechanisms are different. Fundamentally, I believe that they are very similar; they both deliver entertainment in non-traditional ways. These days, consumers are increasingly choosing Netflix over cable or satellite providers. And more television viewers are watching programming on something other than a TV. This is why Pay-TV providers still have audience penetration rates in U.S. homes similar to what they had back in 2005. (Source: “82% of Households Subscribe to A Pay-TV Service,” Leichtman Research Group, Inc., September 23, 2016.)

Netflix has benefited as more people go cord-cutting in search for more interactive, on-demand, and less expensive entertainment options. In my opinion, Sirius XM is at risk from the same consumer sentiment that has benefited Netflix.

Not only is commercial radio currently free, but it now appears thatAmazon.com, Inc. (NASDAQ:AMZN) and Pandora Media Inc. (NYSE:p) are set to deliver a Netflix-like service that could stream music and other entertainment live to your car’s audio system from your smartphone. And the service would be available for a fraction of the cost of a Sirius XM subscription. (Source: “Amazon and Pandora to Gauge Music’s Value in the Internet Age,” The New York Times, September 11, 2016.)


SIRI Stock’s Serious Competition
Pioneer Electronics, a manufacturer of car audio systems, makes this problem for Sirius XM even more tenable as they recently introduced an updated version of an in-dash satellite receiver that can detect Pandora Internet radio settings from smartphones.

This could present meaningful competition for Sirius XM as Pandora’s 78 million active subscriber base is more than twice the number of subscribers that Sirius XM has. (Source: “Pandora Reports Q2 2016 Financial Results,” Pandora Media, Inc., July 21, 2016.)

So, the market may be signaling that changes are on the way that could present serious problems for Sirius XM stock.
It's about time this dead technology stops being propped up by a bunch of rich assholes. Good riddance. Satellite radio was an abysmal failure, and Howard Stern had a hand in it's lack of quality content.
 

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sirius is a pay service that airs a shitload of commercials. not only that, sirius is very expensive at like $20 a month I believe now. the talk content on there, a lot of it isn't exclusive to them. and it has too many commercials. and the music content. sorry, but I'd NEVER pay for music. so that has no value to me.
 

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sirius is a pay service that airs a shitload of commercials. not only that, sirius is very expensive at like $20 a month I believe now. the talk content on there, a lot of it isn't exclusive to them. and it has too many commercials. and the music content. sorry, but I'd NEVER pay for music. so that has no value to me.

Add to this they forced you to buy awful, problematic equipment, the signal often cut out especially in rural areas, and ultimately the product was inferior!

When I stopped listening to Stern, in addition to his own dwindling entertainment value there were free podcasts offering more and better content. After he offloaded Artie, muzzled the back office staff and became the PC ******* he is today, I had zero use for him.
 

Bob Barker

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It is all about content. Whoever has the best content will get the listens/clicks/views. There is no reason why sirius couldn't be doing what streaming services are doing in their mobile app, but they aren't they are always late to the party. They were still focusing on new radios when they should've made an app. They just mace their app a few years ago. Their business model revolves around expensive and outdated technology. I don't think it will be this year or next year as some have predicted, but by the end of master Stern's contract deez N*****s be done cuz.
 

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Am I the only one happy with SiriusXM? :bigthink:
 

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Its the Mcafee virus software of today, installed in your car, and an ever present distraction to your listening...this is the first car I've had that I didn't buy the Sirius after the three months expired, I stream pandora from my phone and only listen to Sirius for the Stern content for the podcast.Meanwhile I get a CONSTANT stream of emails and phone calls telling me I "forgot" to sign up for Sirius in my new car...:rolleyes:
 

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Its the Mcafee virus software of today, installed in your car, and an ever present distraction to your listening...this is the first car I've had that I didn't buy the Sirius after the three months expired, I stream pandora from my phone and only listen to Sirius for the Stern content for the podcast.Meanwhile I get a CONSTANT stream of emails and phone calls telling me I "forgot" to sign up for Sirius in my new car...:rolleyes:
I got the app, how do I find your playlist?
 

SalsMasterShake

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I want to thank @The Jackie Chair for creating this thread and @Gary_Puppet for creating the "Lockdown" thread, as those comprised the final "push" I needed to cut ties all ties with SXM completely.

I called up Sandeep at SXM customer service this morning, and explicitly told him that the reason I was cancelling my service completely was because Howard was an unfunny, out-of-touch bore, and I did not want to support him financially any further. I also told him, truthfully, that Howard was the initial reason why I became a subscriber.

I truly stopped listening to Howard daily about 4 years ago, but would tune in to H101 on Sundays with my son to listen to Friend Riley replays. I happened to tune in to Howard the day that ETM died, and I pretty much knew that was the end for me. I've ONLY kept up with anything Howard through this site, the old place, and, of course, Radio Gunk.

I hung on to SXM primarily to listen to Raiders games and the occasional Clippers or Thunder games (when the Suns were off or their games were over), but I've found free options elsewhere. There was (and is) no real need to pay for anything else they broadcast (Fantasy Football? Podcasts have that covered. Music? C'mon...with Pandora, I'm pretty much set, plus, I'm an old fart who's content to listen to classic songs on shuffle on my iPhone machine).

Anyway, fuck Howard. That wig-wearing, closeted hump will never see one further dime from The Shake!

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Benjamen

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It's about time this dead technology stops being propped up by a bunch of rich assholes. Good riddance. Satellite radio was an abysmal failure, and Howard Stern had a hand in it's lack of quality content.

In that June 2012 clip of John the Stutterer that was posted yesterday, Howard states very clearly that none of the shows on his channels give him any extra money, so he doesn't care whether they're there or not.

This is not the attitude of a guy who cares about seeing a technology grow.
 

KingofallMessicans

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In that June 2012 clip of John the Stutterer that was posted yesterday, Howard states very clearly that none of the shows on his channels give him any extra money, so he doesn't care whether they're there or not.

This is not the attitude of a guy who cares about seeing a technology grow.
That clip was fucking brutal. Listened to it yesterday, and you're right, Howard is a complete money grubbing piece of shit. I also noticed, thanks to your post, how John almost started looking for Robin but stops himself. Serial liar Stern keeping everyone in the dark. Robin says, "it's so good to SEE you," and John starts looking for her in the booth, almost says something, looks at the camera and just lets it go.

Fred was a complete fucking prick too. He must be so checked out. Punch in punch out. And to think, he once thought he deserved a shot on SNL. :rofl:
 

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Sirius XM Holdings, Inc.: This Could Be Big Problem for SIRI Stock
By Tony Termini, BS, MIM Published : October 13, 2016

SIRI-Stock-300x225.jpg
SIRIUS Satellite Radio, Inc. merged with XM Satellite Radio Holdings, Inc. in July 2008 to form what is today Sirius XM Holdings, Inc.(NASDAQ:SIRI). Since then, the company’s revenues have grown at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 9.17% after posting huge losses in both 2008 and 2009.

From 2010 through the end of 2015, Sirius XM stock has grown earnings per share (EPS) at a dramatic CAGR of better than 44.2%. SIRI stock has advanced at a spectacular 37.21% CAGR.

But why has Sirius stock flat-lined for the last nearly three years?

It could be that that Sirius stock has be suffering from the same illness that plagues satellite and cable television providers. The issue facing Pay-TV providers is that high-speed, streaming, and on-demand services can get entertainment to consumers with as much—or more—variety, at faster speeds, and cheaper prices. And this may be what SIRI stock is about to face.

Sirius XM Stock: Subscriber Challenges
When Sirius XM reported its 2015 full-year earnings, the company noted that three out of every four new cars sold in America included factory-equipped satellite radio. Given that more than 17 million new cars were sold in the U.S. last year, that would put the total number of potential new subscribers at about 12.8 million. (Source: “Form 10-K,” U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, February 2, 2016.)

Unfortunately, Sirius XM stock attracted just 2.3 million new subscribers in all of 2015, an increase of some eight percent over the year before. That means fewer than 18% of Americans who bought new cars activated the satellite radio that came with it. (Source: Ibid.
)

Now, let’s compare this to the customer acquisition of a company like Netflix, Inc. (NASDAQ:NFLX). When Netflix reported earnings for the second quarter of 2016, the company told shareholders that new members (subscribers) increased by 1.7 million in just that quarter. Netflix currently has more than 83 million members and a viable audience pool of about a billion. (Source: “Q216 Letter to Shareholders,” Netflix, Inc., July 18, 2016.)

But the two companies are different, you might suggest. I disagree.

Only their products and delivery mechanisms are different. Fundamentally, I believe that they are very similar; they both deliver entertainment in non-traditional ways. These days, consumers are increasingly choosing Netflix over cable or satellite providers. And more television viewers are watching programming on something other than a TV. This is why Pay-TV providers still have audience penetration rates in U.S. homes similar to what they had back in 2005. (Source: “82% of Households Subscribe to A Pay-TV Service,” Leichtman Research Group, Inc., September 23, 2016.)

Netflix has benefited as more people go cord-cutting in search for more interactive, on-demand, and less expensive entertainment options. In my opinion, Sirius XM is at risk from the same consumer sentiment that has benefited Netflix.

Not only is commercial radio currently free, but it now appears thatAmazon.com, Inc. (NASDAQ:AMZN) and Pandora Media Inc. (NYSE:p) are set to deliver a Netflix-like service that could stream music and other entertainment live to your car’s audio system from your smartphone. And the service would be available for a fraction of the cost of a Sirius XM subscription. (Source: “Amazon and Pandora to Gauge Music’s Value in the Internet Age,” The New York Times, September 11, 2016.)


SIRI Stock’s Serious Competition
Pioneer Electronics, a manufacturer of car audio systems, makes this problem for Sirius XM even more tenable as they recently introduced an updated version of an in-dash satellite receiver that can detect Pandora Internet radio settings from smartphones.

This could present meaningful competition for Sirius XM as Pandora’s 78 million active subscriber base is more than twice the number of subscribers that Sirius XM has. (Source: “Pandora Reports Q2 2016 Financial Results,” Pandora Media, Inc., July 21, 2016.)

So, the market may be signaling that changes are on the way that could present serious problems for Sirius XM stock.
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I just bought my wife and new car on Thursday and it came with a year free of Sirius XM. It's a Ford. A whole year. They are just giving it away like air. How are they making any money?
 

QList

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There are way too many options these days. Sirius adds no unique content. Stern content is a farce.

I love my podcasts...if they cornered the market on popular podcasts, they might have a future. I would pay.

They need to forget about music. There are too many free alternatives.
 

jonesey

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I primarily subscribe for travel purposes. I enjoy listening to 40s Junction, Real Jazz and Sinatra when I am driving across the wasteland of West Texas and New Mexico where the 4G signal is weak. Howard 101 offers up some good stuff every once and awhile, but the damn commercials + edited bits keep me from staying tuned. And the wrapping up of Best-Of’s - WTF? - just move on to the next show.
 
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