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yeah, agreed...
I didn't really want to talk at all about it yet until some more people saw it.
I need to see it again to let it percolate in my brain, but it’s far from being as good as “Dark Knight”. which some screaming meamies have claimed.
I went into it like I go to every movie, as it's own entity..
did it entertain me? was it a good story? was it easy to follow?
for me yes to all of the above. I'm gonna agree that it was not as good as the force awakens? I dont think so.
but it kept my attention.
I felt it was maybe a bit, uh, sappy?
I always harken back to the first Star Trek movie, do you remember how much fucking time they spent on showing us the magnificents of the Enterprise? it was like Jesus Fuck, lets move on already.
I felt like this in some of the "training, or lack therein"
I really loved the
but hated
did it entertain me? was it a good story? was it easy to follow?
for me yes to all of the above. I'm gonna agree that it was not as good as the force awakens? I dont think so.
but it kept my attention.
I felt it was maybe a bit, uh, sappy?
I always harken back to the first Star Trek movie, do you remember how much fucking time they spent on showing us the magnificents of the Enterprise? it was like Jesus Fuck, lets move on already.
I felt like this in some of the "training, or lack therein"
I really loved the
Luke not really there, good Jedi trick
but hated
what a pussy that Solo kid really is...like an emo-darth..also, Ren's family being nobodies, do we believe this?
Fillmore/Hydrox
Who me? I’m 6’10” pal!
The burning question on everybody's mind is....
How do all the characters feel about sand?
How do all the characters feel about sand?
it gets in all the wrong places....
Yeah , the twist was there is nothing there .
I liked the movie and was not bored at all . I would have liked to see The princes die on the bridge and be done with her . Her voice is more scary than Snokes . When Luke kicked it was not as sad as I figured it would be when he finaly went . Rose getting hurt was more sad to me to be honest . I was not fooled by the Luke projection and I knew the ice dogs would show them to the back door as soon as I saw them go in the cave .
It’s a fine movie but after seeing it once I like the Force Awakens better . I’m taking my parents tomorrow so I will check in after a second helping .
It’s a fine movie but after seeing it once I like the Force Awakens better . I’m taking my parents tomorrow so I will check in after a second helping .
It did look great imax . I like how this movie was slowed down so you can actually get a good look at the ships . That’s rare these days .
Couple of observations.
1. Leias super power bullshit was crap
2. Zero information on Snoke to explain him. Weak storytelling IMO
3. How in the holy fuck was Lando Calrissian not in this movie? They made a whole fucking world tailor made for him to appear.
4. Luke at the end was awesome.
1. Leias super power bullshit was crap
2. Zero information on Snoke to explain him. Weak storytelling IMO
3. How in the holy fuck was Lando Calrissian not in this movie? They made a whole fucking world tailor made for him to appear.
4. Luke at the end was awesome.
I just got back after watching it. I loved The Force Awakens but this one... not so much. I guess I was expecting more from characters like DJ the hacker and Finn. I felt that this script dropped Finn into a completely useless sub plot that was just a waste of time. IMO he needs to stay together with Rey for his character to work. On his own or with this new character Rose Tico (which I couldn't care less for) he falls short. I enjoyed Rey but her story goes absolutely nowhere. That was a disappointment. I was expecting to learn more about her background or her parents. None of that was revealed. Leia revealing her force powers was great but I was expecting her to die in this movie since she passed away in real life. Luke Skywalker was one of the highlights in this movie. All of his scenes were great and the way he projected himself across galaxies to give the resistance enough time to escape was brilliant script writing that I didn't see coming. I also loved the scene with Yoda! Poe Dameron once again did a good job as a semi-leader and a bad ass pilot. BB8 was great, Chewy was barely in the movie, Captain Phasma was a waste of a character, the Laura Dern character (Holdo) was ok and her sacrificing herself for the resistance was awesome... I like how they shot that scene where they cut all the audio during the explosion. All in all it was a good movie, not a great movie. The pacing on The Force Awakens was spot on but this movie had problems. I rate it a 7 out of 10. I'll probably go see it again though.
I give it 6 Moe's toes out of 10.
but I did feel just like you @PicoDeGato could not care less about Rose,and Finn, wasted....
and you may have guessed the Skywalker thing, but me and the rest of the theater had no idea and we loved it. he actually WAS the movie.
I was severley disappointed in no fully fleshing out of the Snoke (lolz Snape) character was lacking, like I said in my spoiler, do we believe that Reys parents are nobodies, and if they are somebodies, who are they? I see no other older character that even has the potential of being a great reveal.
and, Yes, it may have made a tad more sense to have Leia be the one to crash the ship, given that I liked Laura Derns kick ass purple hair, and non-slur voice (older Leia voice annoyed the shit out of me) it would have for sure made the most a satisfying ending for her.
the funny scenes were cute I guess, I hate cutesy for the sake of cutesy but those little creatures were the Star Wars version of like, Groots I guess??....
I'm still disappointed with the Luke/Rey training, and someone help me to understand the point of her going into the "dark hole" all for naught...
but I did feel just like you @PicoDeGato could not care less about Rose,and Finn, wasted....
and you may have guessed the Skywalker thing, but me and the rest of the theater had no idea and we loved it. he actually WAS the movie.
I was severley disappointed in no fully fleshing out of the Snoke (lolz Snape) character was lacking, like I said in my spoiler, do we believe that Reys parents are nobodies, and if they are somebodies, who are they? I see no other older character that even has the potential of being a great reveal.
and, Yes, it may have made a tad more sense to have Leia be the one to crash the ship, given that I liked Laura Derns kick ass purple hair, and non-slur voice (older Leia voice annoyed the shit out of me) it would have for sure made the most a satisfying ending for her.
the funny scenes were cute I guess, I hate cutesy for the sake of cutesy but those little creatures were the Star Wars version of like, Groots I guess??....
I'm still disappointed with the Luke/Rey training, and someone help me to understand the point of her going into the "dark hole" all for naught...
We should also talk about how they handled Snoke. WTF?!!? We learn absolutely nothing about him. I found him to be an awesome character that I was interested in but they kill him off way to fast. Kylo Ren being the sole dark side villain is a mistake. Snoke is powerful enough to link Kylo and Rey together across galaxies but is oblivious to the fact that Kylo is about to use Reys light saber to kill him makes no sense. The scene after Snoke is killed and his crimson guards attack Rey and Kylo was one of the movies highlights but I hated how Rey mysteriously disappears and magically ends up on the Millennium Falcon once that First Order Dreadnought gets damaged by Holdos kamikaze attack. That was a major continuity issue with the movie.
I may repeat others feelings here...
3 out of 4 stars. 7 out of 10. B+. Can't explain why this is getting the GLOWING reviews and praise that it has. It wasn't THAT good. It didn't cure cancer. My main problem is the humor. Humor is fine when used correctly, but in some places, like when Luke met Rey, it was misused. Almost like breaking the 4th wall. The tossing of the lightsaber and the comment about where Rey is from were poor. Just waiting for the Benny Hill music to turn on and have those two chase each other up the hill. The best use of humor in a mostly dramatic story is the Leia to Han "I love you" scene from Empire. It's a "ha" moment, but not 'HAHAHAHA" type of guffaw. Snoke---wasted character. Maybe the worst under-use since Darth Maul. Phasma was probably an idea and graphic that seemed cool at the inception, but they had no story for her. At the end of the day, if you can't use the force, it's really pointless. The lingering torture for Finn and Rose is the worst cliche. You'd think in a movie that tried to bust balls on over-dramatic cliches, they wouldn't have been "saved" at the last minute. TOO much of that last minute Millennium Falcon to the rescue shit. Enough. The Porgs were shit.Fucking shit. Which brings me to my personal gripe about these movies, and others as well. The humanizing of robots and animals. Why the fuck would a porg give the puppy eyes to Chewie? Are they even intelligent enough to fucking know their species is being eaten by him? The crystal foxes too, while neat in concept, suddenly have whimpering representative of emotions. Even the giant horse type things had similar noises. Why would every mechanical object and every living thing be in harmony with humanoid forms and want to interact with them? The nun-like caretakers were idiotic. Why would they be dressed like nuns? Why necessarily have clothes even?But, now that it's Disney, I expect to see more stupid childish creatures and probably a song or two.
At the end when Poe and Rey introduced each other, I kind of forgot they never met. Poe's story has been established in absentia since we know he's a fighter pilot in the Rebellion. But shit like Finn....why is he such good buddies with Poe, or even Rey? How much shared experience did they have? Now I suppose we'll have the Rose pining for Finn nonsense while he pines for Rey, but it's all just a misunderstanding of emotions. Hmmmm, kind of like three other main characters from the past.
Despite what I wrote, I did enjoy it, though it took a good 45 minutes to shake off the humor from the beginning(thanks to communication problem with Poe and the General Hux. Fucking SPACEBALLS material folks. Ponderous)
3 out of 4 stars. 7 out of 10. B+. Can't explain why this is getting the GLOWING reviews and praise that it has. It wasn't THAT good. It didn't cure cancer. My main problem is the humor. Humor is fine when used correctly, but in some places, like when Luke met Rey, it was misused. Almost like breaking the 4th wall. The tossing of the lightsaber and the comment about where Rey is from were poor. Just waiting for the Benny Hill music to turn on and have those two chase each other up the hill. The best use of humor in a mostly dramatic story is the Leia to Han "I love you" scene from Empire. It's a "ha" moment, but not 'HAHAHAHA" type of guffaw. Snoke---wasted character. Maybe the worst under-use since Darth Maul. Phasma was probably an idea and graphic that seemed cool at the inception, but they had no story for her. At the end of the day, if you can't use the force, it's really pointless. The lingering torture for Finn and Rose is the worst cliche. You'd think in a movie that tried to bust balls on over-dramatic cliches, they wouldn't have been "saved" at the last minute. TOO much of that last minute Millennium Falcon to the rescue shit. Enough. The Porgs were shit.Fucking shit. Which brings me to my personal gripe about these movies, and others as well. The humanizing of robots and animals. Why the fuck would a porg give the puppy eyes to Chewie? Are they even intelligent enough to fucking know their species is being eaten by him? The crystal foxes too, while neat in concept, suddenly have whimpering representative of emotions. Even the giant horse type things had similar noises. Why would every mechanical object and every living thing be in harmony with humanoid forms and want to interact with them? The nun-like caretakers were idiotic. Why would they be dressed like nuns? Why necessarily have clothes even?But, now that it's Disney, I expect to see more stupid childish creatures and probably a song or two.
At the end when Poe and Rey introduced each other, I kind of forgot they never met. Poe's story has been established in absentia since we know he's a fighter pilot in the Rebellion. But shit like Finn....why is he such good buddies with Poe, or even Rey? How much shared experience did they have? Now I suppose we'll have the Rose pining for Finn nonsense while he pines for Rey, but it's all just a misunderstanding of emotions. Hmmmm, kind of like three other main characters from the past.
Despite what I wrote, I did enjoy it, though it took a good 45 minutes to shake off the humor from the beginning(thanks to communication problem with Poe and the General Hux. Fucking SPACEBALLS material folks. Ponderous)
I think Luke with the Grecian Formula in his beard was odd. Giveaway.
I thought Lando was going to be the guy with the flower code cracker. They big time dropped the ball there.
I think the point of the dark hole with nothing in it but mirrors was to show the darkness in her . It was like the tree Luke went into and saw himself as Vader .
When I think about this movie. And the more I do I love it. There is a sense of HOPE there. In these absolutely senseless times we live in... the movie ends with a new hope. I never questioned why "all the horses ran out of the barn" when the little kid was confronted. He makes all of the alien horses run away and saves the day, not because he owns them, but he had The Force within him to make that happen. In the last two minutes, we learn that. A little kid. Looks up at the stars and sees a plane going into light years... and there is our new hope. With a Rebellion ring on his finger. So, Luke was not The Last Jedi. Rey won't be. There will never be a "Last Jedi" and I think that's what makes the movie terrific.
The movie was good but there were fundamental problems with the script. I'll give Rian Johnson some credit... at least he didn't go the route of remaking Empire Strikes Back but some of the obvious plot and story issues should have been addressed during editing or reshoots.
I’m seeing it again on Sunday, but I’m leaning toward being a bit disappointed in the movie. It was good, but after all that anticipation.....i want great. However, I’m going to reserve judgment until I see it again.
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Saw it yesterday and enjoyed it.
The nostalgia factor helped me overlook the meandering slow speed chase main plot, the waste of time Finn/Rose subplot and the fact that Adam Driver has taken what could have been an awesome villain and turned him into a whiny emo douchebag man-baby.
Liked all the Luke stuff though and thought Rian Johnson shot the action/space battle scenes really well.
The Kylo/Rey battle with the guards was cool.
Everything they did with Spoke was disappointing.
Rose was a nice addition to the cast.
Yoda!!!!!!!
The nostalgia factor helped me overlook the meandering slow speed chase main plot, the waste of time Finn/Rose subplot and the fact that Adam Driver has taken what could have been an awesome villain and turned him into a whiny emo douchebag man-baby.
Liked all the Luke stuff though and thought Rian Johnson shot the action/space battle scenes really well.
The Kylo/Rey battle with the guards was cool.
Everything they did with Spoke was disappointing.
Rose was a nice addition to the cast.
Yoda!!!!!!!
All THIS.....
