Here he goes with the "why would" shit. You claimed it to be verified that the phone call never took place. You can't verify that. You don't know what all went on between these people.
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Here he goes with the "why would" shit. You claimed it to be verified that the phone call never took place. You can't verify that. You don't know what all went on between these people.
Do you usually threaten people who are already willing to help you? Dan Reed knew that if he included Safechuck's real story of the 2005 trial, it would've completely blown up his narrative.
yeah no I'll go one further ...it doesn't mean Dr. Chandler didn't convince his son to let MJ convince him to spread his ass cheeks and let him lick his anus.
[6]Carrie Fisher – Shockaholic (Simon & Schuster, November 2011)
RE:Carrie Fisher's Top 3 Crazy Tales: #2 On being Dr. Evan Chandler's dental patient:
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Why in the world would my answer to that question have anything to do with what Jackson may or may not have done? That is very dumb logic. But even if I were to play along, it doesn't help your argument because I can't think of anything I'd do like Michael Jackson.
The above text has no relevance to the discussion. This is you being cornered. This is how it always goes when I decide to play with you. I've had my fill. Til next time.
Why in the world would my answer to that question have anything to do with what Jackson may or may not have done? That is very dumb logic. But even if I were to play along, it doesn't help your argument because I can't think of anything I'd do like Michael Jackson.
The above text has no relevance to the discussion. This is you being cornered. This is how it always goes when I decide to play with you. I've had my fill. Til next time.
That's pretty good. Did you do that just now?
Nah, someone else did it. I just searched Michael Jackson and Penn State to see what would come up.
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Ate you guys watching Oprah’s take on it right now?
If Oprah says it it, it must be true!
I’m serious.....
If Oprah says it it, it must be true!
I’m serious.....
She’s right about Michael but Oprah also promoted and backed another spiritual kook that turns out to be holding women as sex/baby making slaves and sells the babies.
She’s like Robin in that way.
dude, every sex abuse survivor is a liar to this guy. Just let it go. I’ve given up reasoning with his stupid ass.
Fake accusers do more harm to real accusers than anything. They should be called out by everyone for the liars they are. Safechuck and Robson are proven liars, they lied in the documentary and the judge in their civil case threw it out because Robson was lying in his testimony. Look it up if you don't believe me.
dude. stop. everyone is lying and was never abused by this guy....we get it.
Serious question, were you or someone you care about ever accused of
philia when the reality was either untrue or fell into the "gray area?"
This journalist has followed Safechuck and Robson since their original accusations and he's positive it's all bullshit.
Serious question, were you or someone you care about ever accused of
What does it matter? Do I ask everyone that blindly supports the weakest and most nonsensical allegations made in stories like this if they were molested as kids and that's why they're so willing to believe everyone?
That's a "yes" ... I'm not surprised but it helps understand your pathology, especially if you considered the charges or allegations to fall into a "gray area." Was it you or someone close to you?
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no surprise that your “evidence” comes from an MJ podcast...
The guy being interviewed is an expert on this case.
Where else would I get it from? The MSM wants nothing to do with the other side of this story. GMA cancelled Brandi Jackson's appearance in rebuttal to Leaving Neverland.
You could ask if you like and I would answer. In fact, I'll answer now. No, I was never molested and I am not aware of anyone I am close to having ever been molested. Ok, now you.
I don't blindly believe everyone. We've discussed two cases so that's just a dumb statement to make. By that same logic, you would then be someone who never believes any accuser ever. Is that the case?
LOL! Let me know when there's a person claiming to have been abused as a child in a high profile, media driven case, and you don't believe them.
I believe lots of people who claim to have been abused, Taj Jackson being one of them. If you listen to the interview I linked to, he describes his abuse and how he reacted at the time.
Your schtick is tired. Say one thing and then shift it in the next reply.
You evaded the main point, as usual. I answered the question as to whether personal molestation experience may have affected how I react to these stories. So how about you?
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I think it’s safe to assume that @DinnerSocks is “registered”.
Ok, I listened to this. Where was the bombshell which blows the lid off the allegations? Wasn't that the claim you made? And before you go shifting to something else, can you just answer that question first?
I believe her. I believe they had a relationship. I believe she thinks her uncle didn't molest him and that he's lying. Ok. But she's not even directly disputing anything in which she possibly could. It's more of your type shit about what she thinks makes sense. It's not even a he said, she said. It's a he said, she believes. So it boils down to she believes her uncle didn't molest kids and that the ex-boyfriend who cheated on her is a liar. Wow, some bombshell.
She showed a history of Wade Robson's behavior where he would lie, act in his short term best interest, and try to embed himself in with the Jacksons. Robson basically killed his own career with his actions. He cheated on Brandi, which closed off a lot of his Jackson connections. He stabbed Justin Timberlake in the back by fucking Britney Spears then screwed her over too. He burned bridges all over the music industry. Where are all the people in the dance community sticking up for Robson? I haven't seen any. What do you think of Robson's mother asking if she could raise Michael's kids after he died?
I know you have a hard time putting together pieces of information to see a larger pattern, but it looked like Wade was just about out of options when he didn't get the job of choreographing the Michael Jackson Vegas show, which he lobbied very heavily to get. Seems like a perfect time to realize you were abused as a child...20 years later.
The timeline clearly shows that.
She showed a history of Wade Robson's behavior where he would lie, act in his short term best interest, and try to embed himself in with the Jacksons. Robson basically killed his own career with his actions. He stabbed Justin Timberlake in the back by fucking Britney Spears then screwed her over too. He burned bridges all over the music industry. Where are all the people in the dance community sticking up for Robson? I haven't seen any. What do you think of Robson's mother asking if she could raise Michael's kids after he died?
I know you have a hard time putting together pieces of information to see a larger pattern, but it looked like Wade was just about out of options when he didn't get the job of choreographing the Michael Jackson Vegas show, which he lobbied very heavily to get. Seems like a perfect time to realize you were abused as a child...20 years later.
Could you just please point out the bombshell you had promised?
Are you aware of how detectives put together cases? They rarely find the smoking gun. They find hundreds of little pieces of information that put together a much larger picture.
I don't know how you can hear Brandi Jackson, who knew Wade while he was supposedly being abused, and not see there are serious problems with Wade's story. She disputes his claim of spending so much time completely alone with Michael. She disputes his most damning claim of anal sex with Jackson. Brandi said that Wade was performing 4 to 5 hours a day of extremely difficult choreography that you simply couldn't do if your asshole was torn up.
Good Morning America booked Brandi then promptly cancelled her appearance. That should show you something.
I used to think he was just an obsessed Penn State fan or faculty. But I do think something more personal is involved here.
Do you think something was wrong with the judge in Robson's 2015 civil case? He threw out the case because he caught Robson changing his story in the middle of the trial. I bet he was a Penn State fan too!
But didn't you promise a bombshell?
No, I'm not personally aware of how detectives put together cases because I am not one. But I think I have a pretty good idea about where "I know him and he's a liar" and "I know him and he wouldn't do that" and "It doesn't make sense to me that he would do X if Y were going on" fit in.
I don't care anything about Good Morning America.
I suspect many of these "rebuttals" are assembled for your ready regurgitation from sites, possibly on the Dark Web, run by
s, NAMBLA members and other assorted pervs.
But didn't you promise a bombshell?
No, I'm not personally aware of how detectives put together cases because I am not one. But I think I have a pretty good idea about where "I know him and he's a liar" and "I know him and he wouldn't do that" and "It doesn't make sense to me that he would do X if Y were going on" fit in.
I don't care anything about Good Morning America.
Oprah, who has a history with the Jackson family, chose not to have a member on her special to refute anything presented in Leaving Neverland either. That seems to me like the producers and HBO didn't really want anyone asking too many questions, especially to the accusers.
Don't you believe that accusers should still have to be held to some sort of burden of proof? That's how our legal system works,right? You can't just claim abuse from 20+ years ago, go completely unquestioned, then be sanctified by the media. We should just throw out our entire legal system if that's how it's going to be from now on.
