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8675

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Red Sox have somehow lost 75 games...but it's only February


at least i have the Celtics...............................................................................................................or not...........................................
 

Sean Avery

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Red Sox have somehow lost 75 games...but it's only February


at least i have the Celtics...............................................................................................................or not...........................................
I wonder if they have some secret money problems. I know it sounds crazy cause it's the Sox, but they've been acting like a small market midwest team ever since getting rid of Mookie Betts.
 

Somali Joe

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With 1,000's per week being vaccinated, it will only be five years or so when fans can see a live game! Yayyyyy!

It sounds like there will be limited seating for games.

"Fans will be allowed to attend games this season with teams required to spread them out using “pod” seating where groups are separated from one another by at least six feet, Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times reported Monday night. Fans will have to wear a mask everywhere but their seats, hand-washing stations must be widely accessible and lines to get into the ballpark will abide by social distancing."

 

BenjyinStudio

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I live outside of Philly and they're on pace to inoculate the "willing" population in 4.5 years. Maybe the next President will get it done.

Tell me how MLB deals with fans if there's only a 1 in 10 CHANCE of catching the Virus at a packed ballgame. No way that flies.

They're reaching 2,000 people a week. At that pace, nothing gets done.
 

8675

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I wonder if they have some secret money problems. I know it sounds crazy cause it's the Sox, but they've been acting like a small market midwest team ever since getting rid of Mookie Betts.
The new GM is from Tampa Bay Rays so this type of rebuild is all he knows how to do. A lot of it can kind of be explained by that


HOWEVER.....the ownership group that owns the Red Sox/Manchester was rumored to be looking to go public with Billy Beane's SPAC.....and that is weird. Why would the Red Sox need to be a public company, they theoretically have unlimited cash flow as a private entity


So yeah. I'm not entirely sure what the hell is happening here but it's got the looks of a lost decade....not to be too dramatic but this type of grassroots rebuild takes years and years to realize, if indeed that's where this is going.

Always a possibility that next winter they go on a free agent binge....but that's also not realistically how championship teams are made nowadays.
 

vaporizer

This is quite the tenses.
The new GM is from Tampa Bay Rays so this type of rebuild is all he knows how to do. A lot of it can kind of be explained by that


HOWEVER.....the ownership group that owns the Red Sox/Manchester was rumored to be looking to go public with Billy Beane's SPAC.....and that is weird. Why would the Red Sox need to be a public company, they theoretically have unlimited cash flow as a private entity


So yeah. I'm not entirely sure what the hell is happening here but it's got the looks of a lost decade....not to be too dramatic but this type of grassroots rebuild takes years and years to realize, if indeed that's where this is going.

Always a possibility that next winter they go on a free agent binge....but that's also not realistically how championship teams are made nowadays.
I don't think ANY team is going on a Free Agent binge anymore. That's so 90's Yankees. Teams don't operate like that in this day and age. Chaim was brought into the Red Sox universe to do exactly what you said - do a rebuild. But he's also going to build that farm system. Tampa - as we saw last season on their run to the World Series - has/had a fantastic farm system thanks to Chaim. The guy really has his shit together and will soon help the Red Sox return to past glory of annual postseason appearances.

JBJ is going to be gone. They already gave his number away. Mookie is gone. Benintnedi is gone. The team is getting stripped down, time to build it again.

I don't think they have money problems in the Red Sox camp, just spending problems. And a binge on free agent talent is different than signing a couple guys for immediate use. I've never liked John Henry. He always seemed like such a dick, but I'll give it to him for getting that team 4 titles in a 14 year stretch of time. My grandparents lived in the Boston area. NONE of them were alive for a Red Sox championship. Henry got it done.

Looking forward to the 2021 season. Also got my email about TMobile. I've been getting MLB.tv since it first started and to get it on the house from TMobile is pretty fucking rad.

I root for the Dodgers so looking forward to seeing Mookie out there with the guys. Curious to see what they're going to do about David Price. Word has it he's on the trade block.

But, yeah...those Red Sox...looking to see them finish in no higher than 3rd place this season, probably 4th. And no one is gonna be shittier in the AL East than Baltimore. Fucking trainwreck down there.
 

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I don't think ANY team is going on a Free Agent binge anymore. That's so 90's Yankees. Teams don't operate like that in this day and age. Chaim was brought into the Red Sox universe to do exactly what you said - do a rebuild. But he's also going to build that farm system. Tampa - as we saw last season on their run to the World Series - has/had a fantastic farm system thanks to Chaim. The guy really has his shit together and will soon help the Red Sox return to past glory of annual postseason appearances.

JBJ is going to be gone. They already gave his number away. Mookie is gone. Benintnedi is gone. The team is getting stripped down, time to build it again.

I don't think they have money problems in the Red Sox camp, just spending problems. And a binge on free agent talent is different than signing a couple guys for immediate use. I've never liked John Henry. He always seemed like such a dick, but I'll give it to him for getting that team 4 titles in a 14 year stretch of time. My grandparents lived in the Boston area. NONE of them were alive for a Red Sox championship. Henry got it done.

Looking forward to the 2021 season. Also got my email about TMobile. I've been getting MLB.tv since it first started and to get it on the house from TMobile is pretty fucking rad.

I root for the Dodgers so looking forward to seeing Mookie out there with the guys. Curious to see what they're going to do about David Price. Word has it he's on the trade block.

But, yeah...those Red Sox...looking to see them finish in no higher than 3rd place this season, probably 4th. And no one is gonna be shittier in the AL East than Baltimore. Fucking trainwreck down there.
Yeah it's a tough situation though because Xander and Devers are both in their prime and if they stayed it'd be kind of a waste...I know that rebuilding the team was inevitable but it just sucks timing wise. Those two are gems, i just hate to see such a nice homegrown core not have the support. Betts leaving was shitty enough now all 3 of the best homegrown prospects the team produced in some time will probably all be in another uniform. I'm a crybaby lol


David Price is an asshole of epic proportions, not Kyrie Irving level but in the neighborhood.....

Dodgers are the modern Yankees of the 90s though so i have to disagree with your first sentence, they're the exact same if not even more Yankees than the Yankees were. And i don't actually hate that at all, i want my team to spend money like that instead of greedy owners pocketing it. All power to Dodgers. I think they overpaid for Trevor Whatshisface there but i respect their Wallstreetbets spirit of just buying the entire planet yolo style
 

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whatever happened to Bryce Harper?
he's very inconsistent year to year....you never really know what will show up on his stats each year

he did ok in this weird short season though....over .400 on base and slugged .500, OPS .962

nothing to go wild over but certainly a respectable line
 

Jake206

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he's very inconsistent year to year....you never really know what will show up on his stats each year

he did ok in this weird short season though....over .400 on base and slugged .500, OPS .962

nothing to go wild over but certainly a respectable line

I'd go pretty wild over that; that's easily in the top 20 of best OPS in the league.
 

vaporizer

This is quite the tenses.
Yeah it's a tough situation though because Xander and Devers are both in their prime and if they stayed it'd be kind of a waste...I know that rebuilding the team was inevitable but it just sucks timing wise. Those two are gems, i just hate to see such a nice homegrown core not have the support. Betts leaving was shitty enough now all 3 of the best homegrown prospects the team produced in some time will probably all be in another uniform. I'm a crybaby lol


David Price is an asshole of epic proportions, not Kyrie Irving level but in the neighborhood.....

Dodgers are the modern Yankees of the 90s though so i have to disagree with your first sentence, they're the exact same if not even more Yankees than the Yankees were. And i don't actually hate that at all, i want my team to spend money like that instead of greedy owners pocketing it. All power to Dodgers. I think they overpaid for Trevor Whatshisface there but i respect their Wallstreetbets spirit of just buying the entire planet yolo style
But the Dodgers didn't populate that roster with high-priced free agents. They did trades. BIG difference. There is quite a bit of home-grown talent on that roster. Take another look.

Now, if you're looking to have conversation about the Bauer deal, well, I think that was a huge misstep. I don't like the guy and think they massively overpaid for him. My thought on this, though, is that it was the ultimate cock-block move to prevent the Padres from getting their greedy hooks into him. THEY are trying to buy their way to an NL West crown. I mean, they may have to with all the talent the Dodgers have on their roster.

The Red Sox bum me the fuck out. I was HARD CORE into that team for a long time. John Henry and his idiot ownership group (plus his wife; long story from 2009) took my head out of the game. I really can't stand them anymore and I hate to say it. That was MY fucking team.

I digress...

The Red Sox won't be good this year. It's a rebuild. Every team needs to go through it at some point. I did see an article a few weeks back from Tony Maz (like him or not, dude has decent takes SOMETIMES) on how shitty the Red Sox have actually been the last decade. Sure, two championships. But take a look at the years where they were not winning. They were really NOT WINNING.

Fans in the area shouldn't accept that. The tickets (when we're able to go to Fenway) are too fucking expensive for us to watch a fucking AAAA team take the field against real MLB talent. It's a slap in the face and wallet. I've been to far too many of those games to count and it gets me crazy.
 

vaporizer

This is quite the tenses.
Yeah it's a tough situation though because Xander and Devers are both in their prime and if they stayed it'd be kind of a waste...I know that rebuilding the team was inevitable but it just sucks timing wise. Those two are gems, i just hate to see such a nice homegrown core not have the support. Betts leaving was shitty enough now all 3 of the best homegrown prospects the team produced in some time will probably all be in another uniform. I'm a crybaby lol


David Price is an asshole of epic proportions, not Kyrie Irving level but in the neighborhood.....

Dodgers are the modern Yankees of the 90s though so i have to disagree with your first sentence, they're the exact same if not even more Yankees than the Yankees were. And i don't actually hate that at all, i want my team to spend money like that instead of greedy owners pocketing it. All power to Dodgers. I think they overpaid for Trevor Whatshisface there but i respect their Wallstreetbets spirit of just buying the entire planet yolo style
And oddly enough, just saw this graphic on Twitter after I completed my last message:
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But the Dodgers didn't populate that roster with high-priced free agents. They did trades. BIG difference. There is quite a bit of home-grown talent on that roster. Take another look.

Now, if you're looking to have conversation about the Bauer deal, well, I think that was a huge misstep. I don't like the guy and think they massively overpaid for him. My thought on this, though, is that it was the ultimate cock-block move to prevent the Padres from getting their greedy hooks into him. THEY are trying to buy their way to an NL West crown. I mean, they may have to with all the talent the Dodgers have on their roster.

The Red Sox bum me the fuck out. I was HARD CORE into that team for a long time. John Henry and his idiot ownership group (plus his wife; long story from 2009) took my head out of the game. I really can't stand them anymore and I hate to say it. That was MY fucking team.

I digress...

The Red Sox won't be good this year. It's a rebuild. Every team needs to go through it at some point. I did see an article a few weeks back from Tony Maz (like him or not, dude has decent takes SOMETIMES) on how shitty the Red Sox have actually been the last decade. Sure, two championships. But take a look at the years where they were not winning. They were really NOT WINNING.

Fans in the area shouldn't accept that. The tickets (when we're able to go to Fenway) are too fucking expensive for us to watch a fucking AAAA team take the field against real MLB talent. It's a slap in the face and wallet. I've been to far too many of those games to count and it gets me crazy
You listen to Felger & Mazz? they're not bad

And i cannot agree more about ticket prices that's actually been a bigger gripe with most people than the team not being good.....you're paying a ridiculous premium to go to Fenway whether or not the team is good. I guess ticket pricing is in of itself something im not demonstrably knowledgeable over but when the team is ass and you're just making cap moves in a non salary cap league, then don't make me pay fuckin world series prices to see a mediocre product
 

vaporizer

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You listen to Felger & Mazz? they're not bad

And i cannot agree more about ticket prices that's actually been a bigger gripe with most people than the team not being good.....you're paying a ridiculous premium to go to Fenway whether or not the team is good. I guess ticket pricing is in of itself something im not demonstrably knowledgeable over but when the team is ass and you're just making cap moves in a non salary cap league, then don't make me pay fuckin world series prices to see a mediocre product
I used to listen to them up until I got a new car with satellite and bluetooth tech in 2013. After that I haven't listened to one second of testicle radio. I follow Mazz on Twitter. Felger is kind of a douche. I like Mazz when he gets into baseball discussion. He's not bad.

And yep on the pricing. Fenway is a fucking boatload per ticket and it's shitty. I started college in 1997 and was in Boston. I was quite literally a stones throw from the park, able to walk there in just about 7 minutes. The first night I'm there in the dorms the Braves were in town and I wanted to see a game. I picked up a ticket at the box on the 3rd base side for $18 in the grandstand. In 2021 I think that same ticket is at least $80 if not higher. It's out of control. The bleachers are fucking expensive. And don't even get me started on the monster seats. I've only been up there once and only because a friend bought tickets and used it as a social write-off for his business. Talk about overpriced. I can't even see the left fielder.

Again, I've got a really bad taste in my mouth with that team these days.
 

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I used to listen to them up until I got a new car with satellite and bluetooth tech in 2013. After that I haven't listened to one second of testicle radio. I follow Mazz on Twitter. Felger is kind of a douche. I like Mazz when he gets into baseball discussion. He's not bad.

And yep on the pricing. Fenway is a fucking boatload per ticket and it's shitty. I started college in 1997 and was in Boston. I was quite literally a stones throw from the park, able to walk there in just about 7 minutes. The first night I'm there in the dorms the Braves were in town and I wanted to see a game. I picked up a ticket at the box on the 3rd base side for $18 in the grandstand. In 2021 I think that same ticket is at least $80 if not higher. It's out of control. The bleachers are fucking expensive. And don't even get me started on the monster seats. I've only been up there once and only because a friend bought tickets and used it as a social write-off for his business. Talk about overpriced. I can't even see the left fielder.

Again, I've got a really bad taste in my mouth with that team these days.
:jj: yeah

the cold hard truth about Fenway, and i love it there it's the best, but its not the best because it was built to host fans. a lot of the seating views are legitimately bullshit

it's a 300 year old Roman age little box that used to be an execution blood sport stadium that we've managed transform into a baseball diamond with 40 thousand seats in like an apartment building sized tiny space

it's probably a harsh shock for people who arent from around these parts and they are used to "nice" stadiums where the people can see the game
 

BenjyinStudio

Different Strokes for Different Folks
I don't think ANY team is going on a Free Agent binge anymore. That's so 90's Yankees. Teams don't operate like that in this day and age. Chaim was brought into the Red Sox universe to do exactly what you said - do a rebuild. But he's also going to build that farm system. Tampa - as we saw last season on their run to the World Series - has/had a fantastic farm system thanks to Chaim. The guy really has his shit together and will soon help the Red Sox return to past glory of annual postseason appearances.

JBJ is going to be gone. They already gave his number away. Mookie is gone. Benintnedi is gone. The team is getting stripped down, time to build it again.

I don't think they have money problems in the Red Sox camp, just spending problems. And a binge on free agent talent is different than signing a couple guys for immediate use. I've never liked John Henry. He always seemed like such a dick, but I'll give it to him for getting that team 4 titles in a 14 year stretch of time. My grandparents lived in the Boston area. NONE of them were alive for a Red Sox championship. Henry got it done.

Looking forward to the 2021 season. Also got my email about TMobile. I've been getting MLB.tv since it first started and to get it on the house from TMobile is pretty fucking rad.

I root for the Dodgers so looking forward to seeing Mookie out there with the guys. Curious to see what they're going to do about David Price. Word has it he's on the trade block.

But, yeah...those Red Sox...looking to see them finish in no higher than 3rd place this season, probably 4th. And no one is gonna be shittier in the AL East than Baltimore. Fucking trainwreck down there.
Baltimore immediately dumps any player slated to make over one million dollars per year. That franchise is pathetic. Chris Davis will still be paid through 2036. It makes my head hurt to think about it.
 

vaporizer

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Baltimore immediately dumps any player slated to make over one million dollars per year. That franchise is pathetic. Chris Davis will still be paid through 2036. It makes my head hurt to think about it.
It's pretty fucked up because they went on a nice run from the mid 60s through 83 of being the class of the AL East, then just an absolute turd franchise.
 

BenjyinStudio

Different Strokes for Different Folks
It's pretty fucked up because they went on a nice run from the mid 60s through 83 of being the class of the AL East, then just an absolute turd franchise.

A real scumbag of an owner, Peter Angelos. He's old as dirt (born 1928) and has a freakish view of "value" when it comes to players. The more money you pay a player, the better a player is.
 

DeezNuts123

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Red Sox have somehow lost 75 games...but it's only February


at least i have the Celtics...............................................................................................................or not...........................................
Fuck Baaaaahhhhstan. Go dodgers
 

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you also can't hate the worst team in the league which is boston

that's just like not worth it. it's like shorting Gamestop at 3.00 it is just kicking a wounded animal


the Red Sox are currently Gamestop at 3.00....what is left to hate it's already basically dead
 

Somali Joe

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Keep an eye on this player.



"

1. Alex Kirilloff​


Position: COF/1B | Born: 1997 | Bats: Left | Acquired: 2016 draft

Five years after he was the final first-round pick of the Terry Ryan regime — a Pittsburgh high schooler selected 15th in the 2016 draft — Kirilloff is the best prospect in a good Twins system. He’s also big-league ready despite the absence of a 2020 minor-league season, making his MLB debut starting a playoff game and adding to the Twins’ comfort level parting ways with Eddie Rosario.

Elbow surgery sidelined Kirilloff for what would have been his first full season in 2017, but he returned in 2018 to hit .348/.392/.578 in 130 games across two levels of Single A as a 20-year-old. He moved up to Double A in 2019 and got off to a slow start due to wrist problems, but then hit .321/.371/.573 with nine homers in 32 games from Aug. 1 through the Southern League playoffs.

Robbed of a chance to put up big numbers at Triple-A last year, he instead put in work behind the scenes at the minor-league camp in St. Paul, where Kirilloff was often singled out by Twins officials for dominating as much as was possible under the circumstances. Just the third player in baseball history to debut in the playoffs, he singled in his second at-bat and made a sliding catch in right field.

It’s nearly impossible to find anyone, with the Twins or in the general prospect evaluation realm, not convinced he’ll be an impact bat. He oozes natural talent, with a smooth left-handed swing that’s produced a .317 average in the minors and could generate 30-homer power to all fields as he matures. While not yet a patient hitter, Kirilloff has avoided big strikeout totals and rarely chases slop.

He has enough range and arm to be a quality corner outfielder and is seen as a potentially great first baseman. Make no mistake, though: His bat is the draw. If his power develops as hoped, Kirilloff’s upside is a middle-of-the-order MVP candidate. If he maxes out closer to the 20-homer range he’s already shown in the minors, Kirilloff still projects as an All-Star."

 
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